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		<title>Welcoming LGBTQ+ People BECAUSE of Jesus, not IN SPITE of Jesus</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>SESSION 4 LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible. The fourth and final session explores why explicit welcome of LGBTQ+ people is faithful to the Gospel. </p>
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	<h4 style="text-align: center;"><strong>SESSION 4</strong><br />
<strong>LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible</strong></h4>
<h4 style="text-align: center;"><strong><em>Welcoming LGBTQ+ People BECAUSE of Jesus,<br />
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<p><em>On Sunday, February 12, we began a four-week Bible Study series on LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible. The fourth and final session – held on Sunday, March 5 – explored why explicit welcome of LGBTQ+ people is faithful to the Gospel. Each week we will publish Pastor Chris’ notes from these Bible Studies. These notes are edited and updated following the class. Still, these notes are not fully fleshed out essays, and they are certainly not everything that can be said about these important topics.</em></p>
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<p><strong>Jesus never says, “Welcome LGBTQ+ people into your lives.”</strong><br />
<strong>Jesus always says, “Welcome LGBTQ+ people into your lives.”</strong></p>
<p><strong>You will not find those <em>words</em> in the Bible.</strong><br />
<strong>Yet, you will find this <em>imperative</em> in everything Jesus says and does.</strong></p>
<p>Over the centuries the church has done great harm to members of the LGBTQ+ community, pushing these beloved children away from the church, its ministry, and the Gospel it strives to proclaim. In its error-riddled hubris, the church has failed to bear witness to the Gospel of love, mercy, and grace to LGBTQ+ people. The church has forced LGBTQ+ people to the margins.</p>
<p>It is with boundaries, margins, and borders in mind that we approach today’s study. Each of the following stories and vignettes, in some way, give us insight into how Christians are called to engage the boundaries of our faith communities. Boundaries of faith communities are liminal spaces, bearing qualities of both the “inside” and the “outside,” populated by believers, seekers, pilgrims, curious onlookers, and adherents to other faiths. How are we to manage, live, engage, and be the people of God in these places?</p>
<p>Let’s take a look.</p>
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	<h3><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">The Futility of Gatekeeping</span></strong></h3>
<h3><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+9%3A38-41%3B+10%3A13-16&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mark 9:38-41, 10:13-16</a><br />
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	<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> D</span>isciples have an impulse to control the movement Jesus is leading</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> In Mark 9, there’s someone who is casting out demons in the name of Jesus, but he “is not following us.” Because he is not one of them, the disciples want to stop him from his holy, healing work. The disciples believe that their fellowship, their movement is the only act in town.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>In Mark 10, there are parents who bring children to be blessed by Jesus. The disciples want to stop them, since Jesus shouldn’t be bothered with children. Jesus responds, “Let the little children come to me.” The disciples are not to impede anyone who comes to Jesus.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> The disciples’ impulse to gate-keep is not in keeping with the way of Jesus</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> Furthermore, Jesus lifts up the faith and affect of a child as exemplary. Children do not know hate, division, discrimination, or bigotry. Neither should we.</span></p>
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	<h3><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">How We Treat Others is How We Treat Jesus</span></strong></h3>
<h3><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A31-46&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Matthew 25:31-46</a></span></strong></h3>
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	<p><strong>Let’s return to this passage, often called “The Judgment of the Nations” (we spent some time here during Session 2, on Welcome)</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> In one of his final teachings before his execution, Jesus describes what Judgment Day will look like. Yikes. Many Christians find Judgment Day to be a difficult topic – which makes sense! Jesus himself warns us of the danger of judging others (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A1&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Matthew 7:1</span></a>). We should approach this topic with great care and humility.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  Jesus describes Judgment Day as that time when the King will separate people into two groups – one group he welcomes into his kingdom, and one group who is rejected. Those who are welcomed into the kingdom all share one trait – they treated others with mercy, love, and care. Those who are rejected from the kingdom also share one trait – they treated others with neglect, scorn, and disregard.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  Love is the primary ethic of Christian living. Nothing else comes close.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> Note what key Christian trait is not named in this passage – faith. The importance of faith in God is lifted up throughout the Bible, of course. Faith in Christ and in his promises is the lifeblood of Christian living and the wellspring of Christian hope. Yet, many stories – including this story of the Judgment Day – also speak of God’s blessings and promise coming to those who act righteously without any reference to faith.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  Note also that the acts of love described by the King are done for people who dwell at the margins of society: the hungry, thirsty, stranger, naked, sick, imprisoned. We are called to act in love toward our neighbor, particularly toward our neighbors who are suffering in some way.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  Jesus identifies with the marginalized and the suffering of this world. Jesus welcomes into his kingdom those who act in love toward those who suffer.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  The margins of the Christian community are governed not by creed, but by love.<br />
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	<h3><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">Who do we Love?</span></strong></h3>
<h3><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Luke 10:25-37</a></span></strong></h3>
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	<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  A religious leader asks Jesus what must be done to inherit eternal life. Jesus asks him what the law of Moses says. He responds with this summary: Love God, Love Neighbor. Jesus accepts this summary of the law, and encourages him to keep it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>   But the religious leader pushes Jesus on the definition of neighbor. “And who is my neighbor?”</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>   Jesus tells a story of one person’s righteous, loving act toward another who is suffering and left for dead on the side of the road. The person who responds with love and care is an outsider to Jewish society, a Samaritan – a group which was looked down upon by the Jewish majority of his day. Jesus makes the reviled outsider the example of righteousness, the paradigmatic neighbor.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>   We are to “show mercy” to our neighbors. Love is not dependent upon creed or ethnicity or status. Love is an action, not an emotion.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>   Again, Jesus heralds an outsider, someone at/beyond the margins of the established faith community, as a true example of righteousness.<br />
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	<h3><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">Breaking Conventions, Honoring the Outsider</span></strong></h3>
<h3><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A1-42&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">John 4:1-42</a></span></strong></h3>
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	<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> Jesus talks with a woman, a Samaritan woman – all against the norms</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> What is her marital status? Jesus says she has had five husbands. Is “husband” a euphemism for lover here? Has she had really bad luck with husbands who keep dying on her (assuming the word “husband” is used literally here)? The church has traditionally understood women such as her as being of ill-repute – a prostitute, for example. We do not need to speculate. We do not need to condemn. We do not need to perpetuate the trope of the scandalously promiscuous woman. What we know is that she is alone, at the hottest part of the day, drawing water (not when most people would choose to draw water). She is a vulnerable woman in a marginalized community.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> Against all the norms of the day, Jesus welcomes her theological questions, her faithful inquiry, and her testimony. She demonstrates her faith, and comes to believe Jesus is the Messiah. In fact, she leaves Jesus to go tell others and bring them to Jesus. She is among the first evangelists in the Gospels – an outsider, marginalized, Samaritan woman.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> Jesus chooses to stay in Samaria for two days, blessing the people and proclaiming the Good News.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> Jesus chooses to break the norms, honor an outsider, and expand the boundaries of his community.</span><span style="color: #49728f;"><br />
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	<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>We did not get to these passages in our lesson, but they were in my notes. I’m struck by the large crowds that gather around the preaching, teaching, and wonder-working of John the Baptist and Jesus. These are crowds that gather without distinction. Jews and Greeks. Pharisees and common Jews. Men, women, and children. Neither John nor Jesus engage in gate-keeping, limiting who can come to hear them teach and preach. The words and works of God are for all people.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  </span><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+1%3A1-8%3B+Luke+3%3A1-20&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Mark 1:1-8; Luke 3:1-20</span></a> – John the Baptist gathers “All of Judea” to repentance</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  </span><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+14%3A13-21+&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Matthew 14:13-21</span></a> – Feeding the Five Thousand</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  </span><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A23-5%3A2&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Matthew 4:23-5:2</span></a> – Crowds gather around Jesus’ words and deeds</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i>  </span>Jesus is not creating a movement based on purity or some sort of uniformity, but based on invitation, grace, and hope.<span style="color: #49728f;"><br />
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	<p><strong>The church is called to have an incredibly porous, permeable boundary.</strong> It is not in keeping with the Gospel to reject members of the LGBTQ+ community, or anyone one else, based on who they are as people made in the image of God. The church is called to bless and honor and welcome all of God’s people.</p>
<p>Does this mean that “All are Welcome”? No. Not everyone is welcome. A Nazi, for example, is not welcome in our church – unless they seek to repent of their sins. Then, yes, by all means, let us walk to the cross together in prayer and repentance. People who are committed to ideologies that demean, dehumanize, or revile people based on their race, ethnicity, gender, or religion are not welcome. Such behavior, such ideologies, are an affront to the Gospel and have no place in the church of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p><strong>Love God. Love neighbor. That’s the rule.</strong></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>SESSION 3 LBGTQ+ and the Bible. Today we are looking at the “clobber verses” – the small handful of Bible passages that are frequently used to reject, shame, and condemn homosexuality and members of the LGBTQ+ community.</p>
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	<h4 style="text-align: center;"><strong>SESSION 3</strong><br />
<strong>LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible</strong></h4>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><em>The Clobber Verses</em></h3>
<h4 style="text-align: center;"><strong>But the Bible Says ...!</strong></h4>
<p><em>On Sunday, February 12, we began a four-week Bible Study series on LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible. The third session – held on Sunday, February 26 – examined what are commonly called “The Clobber Verses.” Each week we will publish Pastor Chris’ notes from these Bible Studies. These notes are edited and updated following the class. Still, these notes are not fully fleshed out essays, and they are certainly not everything that can be said about these important topics.</em></p>
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<p><strong>Today we are looking at the “clobber verses”</strong> – the small handful of Bible passages that are frequently used to reject, shame, and condemn homosexuality and members of the LGBTQ+ community.</p>
<p>Two weeks ago, I mentioned that there are plenty of <strong>norms and practices</strong> that we have in today’s society which are not found in the Bible – <strong>norms that we find good, and holy, and life-giving</strong>. Norms such as consent, dating, marrying for love, etc.</p>
<p>We also have certain <strong>understandings and knowledge</strong> that the Biblical generations did not have – gender equality in church and society; the possibility and beauty of mutual, loving same sex relationships; biological/scientific insights into human sexuality; and more.</p>
<p>Importantly for this discussion, the Biblical generations did not conceive of the possibility and beauty of mutual, loving, same sex relationships. As such, the few Bible verses that seem to address same sex intimacy need to be examined to understand if the activity they are referring to is comparable to today’s mutual, loving, same sex relationships.</p>
<p>Finally – and this is important –when we seek Biblical guidance on matters of ethics we look for <strong>threads that weave and themes that repeat</strong> throughout Scripture. We do not base our ethics or theologies on a small handful of disjointed bible verses or isolated ideas. That’s now how Christian ethics works. That’s not how good theology works. We look for patterns that repeat throughout Scripture.</p>
<p>We will take a look at some of the most common “clobber verses,” and ask, “Is this this verse or passage sufficient to condemn mutual, loving same sex relationships?” In each instance, the answer to that question is “no.” Read on to see why that’s the case.</p>
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<h3><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19%3A1-29&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Genesis 19</a></span></strong></h3>
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	<h4><strong> Sodom and Gomorrah</strong></h4>
<p><strong>We spent some time looking at this passage two weeks ago, in our <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://newjoy.org/2023/02/13/lgbtq-welcome-and-the-bible/">overview lesson of Christianity and Human Sexuality</a></span>. Check out those notes for more information.</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is fundamentally about the failure to extend hospitality.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>The same-sex sexual activity referred to in this passage is violent gang rape.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>Violent gang rape is not the same as mutual, loving same sex relationships.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>Is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah a condemnation of mutual, loving same sex relationships? No.<span style="color: #49728f;"><br />
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	<h4><strong>It is unlawful for a man to lay with a man</strong></h4>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><strong><i class="fa fa-comments"></i></strong> </span><strong>Discussion Stater: First, open to any chapter of the book of Leviticus, and quickly scan through it. What are you reading? What kind of world are you imagining these rules are intended to govern? How similar or different does this world feel from ours?</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>Leviticus is a book of laws – of laws about worship, ritual, and sacrifices, and laws about family, economics, sexuality, and community. This book reveals that ancient Jewish society was highly ordered and highly regulated, intended to set Jews apart from neighboring tribes and peoples.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>There’s a a general prohibition on “mixing” – <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=leviticus+19%3A19&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Leviticus 19:19</span></a>, for example, cites prohibitions on breeding animals of different kinds, on mixing two kinds of seeds to plant in a field, and of sewing two different fabrics into a garment to be worn. This is part of the call to keep separate and distinctive as God’s chosen people.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>Leviticus reflects an ancient worldview, parts of which modern Christians (and Jews!) no longer accept as normative (for example, we would go to a dermatologist for a skin disease, not necessary visit a priest for examination; and, neither Christians nor Jews practice animal or grain offerings, despite Leviticus providing several chapters on the topic). Yet, we don’t remove such rules or books from the Bible. Instead, we seek to understand these passages in their contexts.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-comments"></i> </span><strong>Scan chapters 18 and 20; what’s going on these chapters?</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>A concern for a certain kind of sexual purity; limits on sexual practices</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>Seems odd that some of these rules even needed to be said!</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>These chapters are part of a larger section in Leviticus often referred to as the <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://enterthebible.org/passage/leviticus-17-27-the-holiness-code" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Holiness Codes, Leviticus 17-26</a></span>. The Holiness Codes include a variety of laws intended to guide the people to “be holy as the LORD your God is holy.” It is a call to live as people set apart from neighboring nations by distinctive economic, social, sexual, and family practices.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-comments"></i> </span><strong>What about these two verses and their prohibition on male same sex intimacy?</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>The ancients believed that semen contained everything, or most, of what is needed for life -thus “wasting” semen was understood as a grave offense against God (on wasting semen, see <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+38%3A1-10&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Genesis 38:1-10</a></span>). In this way, two men engaged in sex was understood as offensive to God as it could not result in pregnancy.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span> Also, the ancient concern about mixing (not to mix two kinds of seed in a field or wear clothing made of two different kinds of fabric, etc.) comes into play here. Perhaps the concern with male same sexual intimacy has to do with “mixing” men with men against the norm of male-female sexual intimacy.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span> Male same sex intimacy can place a man in a receptive position, otherwise seen as the role of a woman in sexual intimacy. This would be another kind of “mixing” (in this case, of gender roles) that would generally be prohibited in ancient Israel and seen as shameful.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span> Yet, Leviticus is not concerned with sexual intimacy between two women. Perhaps the experience of women was simply overlooked – as was common in patriarchal societies. Likely, the prohibition on male same sex intimacy has to do with non-procreative seminal emissions and/or with the concerns about “mixing.”</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span> These verses do not address love or mutuality, but simply address some of the “mechanics” of same sex intimate acts, based on perspectives most modern Christians (and most modern Jews) no longer hold.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span> Furthermore, Christianity has long held onto Leviticus loosely, recognizing that its laws were written for a very different time and place. Laws about sacrifices, rituals, bodily emissions, food, skin health, and more are generally not followed by Christians.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>Instead, the laws that most clearly speak to Christians today from Leviticus are those that echo the prophets, Jesus, and New Testament writings on love of neighbor (Leviticus 19:18), care for the poor (Leviticus 19:11-13; 25:35-55), and hospitality to the outsider (Leviticus 19:33-34; 23:22).</p>
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<p><strong>Do Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 condemn mutual, loving same sex relationships? </strong>No.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><strong><i class="fa fa-comments"></i></strong> </span><strong>Discussion Stater: <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A18-2%3A1&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Scan Romans 1:18-2:1</a></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>1:18-20, God can be observed in nature</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>1:21-23, people rejected what they could know of God</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>1:24-25, God gave them up to the lusts of their hearts</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>1:26-27, they engaged in “unnatural” sex</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>1:28-32, they engaged in all kinds of sinful activities</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>2:1, we all engage in sinful activities</p>
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<p><strong>There were two common, public examples of same-sex intimacy known in the ancient world:</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>pederasty, the abuse of boys by esteemed men</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>temple cults related to Greek and other pagan gods sometimes included temple prostitutes and same-sex cultic sex acts</p>
<p><strong>Sexual norms held at the time held that women took passive roles in sexual intimacy, and men took more active roles.</strong> Thus, same sex male intimacy required at least one of the male partners to be passive/receptive, and same sex female intimacy required at least one of the partners to be active – roles that were seen as shameful in that time period and culture.</p>
<p><strong>Sexual sins are just one of the long list of “things that should not be done”</strong> (Romans 1:28). That list includes murder, gossip, and rebelliousness toward parents.</p>
<p><strong>Does Romans 1:26-28 condemn mutual, loving same sex relationships? </strong>No.</p>
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	<h4><strong>Men who engage in illicit sex are condemned</strong></h4>
<p><strong>The word ἀρσενοκοῖται (arsenokoites) is sometimes translated as “homosexual” or “sodomite.”</strong> It is a word that appears only twice in the entire Bible – in these two lists of “wrongdoers who will not inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9).</p>
<p><strong>It’s a word that isn’t in common use in contemporaneous Greek literature,</strong> and at least one newer translation of the Bible puts footnote for this word which reads, “meaning of Greek uncertain” (New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition).</p>
<p><strong>The precise meaning of this word is uncertain</strong>, but likely refers to some sort of male same sex intimacy. Again, most of the known same sex activity at that time was violent, abusive, or otherwise idolatrous – nothing like what we know today of mutual, loving same sex relationships.</p>
<p><strong>The other types of wrongdoers named in 1 Corinthians 6 include thieves, robbers, and the greedy.</strong> The list in 1 Timothy 1 includes murderers, slave traders, and “whatever else is contrary to sound teaching.”</p>
<p><strong>Both passages speak condemningly of a certain class of people</strong>. If you keep reading – and we should always keep reading – both passages quickly move into a section on redemption.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>In 1 Corinthians Paul continues: “And this is what some of you used to be. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11).</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </span>In 1 Timothy, Paul follows up his list of outlaws with his owns story of redemption. “I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and a man of violence. But I received mercy because I had acted ignorantly in unbelief, and the grace of our Lord overflowed for me with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus” (1 Peter 1:13-14).</p>
<p><strong>Do 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 condemn mutual, loving same sex relationships?</strong> No.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>SESSION 2 LGBTQ+ and the Bible. The second session of this series looks at hospitality in both the Bible and also in New Joy’s history.</p>
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<strong>LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible</strong></h4>
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<p>On Sunday, February 12, we began a four-week Bible Study series on LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible. The second session of this series looked hospitality in both the Bible and also in New Joy’s history.</p>
<p>Each week we will publish Pastor Chris’ notes from these Bible Studies. These notes are edited and updated following the class. Still, these notes are not fully fleshed out essays, and they are certainly not everything that can be said about these important topics.</p>
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	<p><strong>The group shared several examples of being welcomed into new communities:</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-chevron-circle-right"></i> </span>A family living off base, overseas and being welcomed by the Army chaplains on the nearby US Army base. The chaplains and the base chapel community offered important emotional, spiritual, and practical support for this young family.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-chevron-circle-right"></i> </span>Someone being welcomed into a large family after getting married. Another “outlaw” – someone else who had married into this large family – showed him the ropes and made him feel especially included into his new family.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-chevron-circle-right"></i> </span>One person shared how being offered a new job is a great kind of welcome – being included and welcomed because of the skill and knowledge they have.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-chevron-circle-right"></i> </span>Several people shared about being welcomed at New Joy by people with warm greetings, invitations to fellowship groups, and simply by remembering their names week-to-week.</p>
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	<p><strong>Hospitality is a key value in the Hebrew Bible</strong>. <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+19%3A33-34&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Leviticus 19:33-34</a></span>, among others, calls God’s people to welcome and care for outsiders in their midst. Several Bible stories also demonstrate this commitment to hospitality.</p>
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<h4><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Luke 24:13-35</a></span></strong></h4>
<h4><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Matthew 25:31-46</a></span></strong></h4>
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<h4><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-comments"></i> </span>What happens as a result of extending hospitality?</h4>
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<p>Here Abraham and Sarah welcome three visitors into their tent. Notice how Abraham hastens to these three men, offers them food, rest, water. He bows toward them. He uses a title of dignity (“my lord”).</p>
<p>He prepares “choice” flour for bread, had a “good” calf prepared for them, and more.</p>
<p>It is not clear that Abraham knows these men represent the Lord. <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+13%3A2&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Hebrews 13:2</a></span> suggests that he did not (“Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for in so doing some have entertained angels unaware.”).</p>
<p>In extended hospitality to strangers, Abraham and Sarah welcome God into their midst.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+24&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Luke 24:13-35</a></span>  The Road to Emmaus</strong></p>
<p>Two men leaving Jerusalem after the crucifixion of Jesus begin talking with a man on the road. Walking and talking with an unknown person along a long walk is a form of hospitality – they welcome him into their conversation. They tell this man about the events of the past weekend – the crucifixion of Jesus, his burial, and rumors of his resurrection. The man, then, begins to tell them about Scripture, teaching about the Bible in light of the events of the weekend.</p>
<p>At the end of the day the men welcome Jesus into their home. They share a meal together. When the man broke bread with them, their eyes were opened and hearts burned. They realized that they were walking with Jesus the entire time.</p>
<p>In welcoming this man among them, they welcomed Jesus.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Matthew 25:31-46</span></a>  The Judgment of the Nations</strong></p>
<p>In his final teaching prior to his passion, Jesus describes the Day of Judgment. In this telling, Jesus describes all nations gathered before the king. The king will separate the people from each other, “as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.” And as the king welcomes some of the people into the kingdom, he explains why: “for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me … just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.”</p>
<p>However we treat anyone, especially “the least of these,” is how we treat Jesus. This is a promise Jesus makes always to be with and among “the least of these.” Thus, however we treat – however we welcome – the poor and outcast, is how we treat and welcome Jesus.</p>
<p><strong>Hospitality is an act of welcoming</strong> not just another person into our home, congregation, or community, but of welcoming God into our midst.</p>
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<p>The class also discussed New Joy’s Welcome statement from 2002, as found on our “<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://newjoy.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/MissionWheel.png" target="_blank" rel="noopener">mission wheel</a></span>.” Several years before both our denomination and the US Supreme Court acted in ways to affirm LGBTQ+ people, New Joy proclaimed a radical welcome:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>God does not discriminate and neither do we.<br />
</strong></em><em><strong>New Joy happily welcomes all, without regard to race, income, or sexual orientation.</strong></em></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>SESSION 1 LBGTQ+ and the Bible. The first session offered an initial overview of Christianity and human sexuality.</p>
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	<h4 style="text-align: center;"><strong>SESSION 1</strong><br />
<strong>LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible</strong></h4>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><em>Overview of Christianity and Human Sexuality</em></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>We're Talking About THAT?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">On Sunday, February 12, we began a four-week Bible Study series on LGBTQ+ Welcome and the Bible, as part of New Joy's <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://newjoy.org/about/radical-welcome/">Exploring our Radical Welcome</a></span> initiative. The first session offered an initial overview of Christianity and human sexuality. Each week we will publish Pastor Chris’ notes from these Bible Studies. These notes are not fully fleshed out essays, and they are certainly not everything that can be said about these important topics.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #49728f;">The Bible opens with beautiful poetry about the creation of the world and the creation of people.</span></h3>
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	<p><em>The Flight of Lot and His family from Sodom, Jacob Jordaens</em></p>
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<p><strong>What kinds of truth or realities can poetry express that prose or scientific observations cannot?</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Genesis 1</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></span> 6 days of creation; 1 day of rest</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></span> Genesis 1:26-28 People are made in the image of God (at times the Bible imagines a kind of divine council. Here the Lord may be addressing other divine beings when initiating the creation of humanity. “Let us make humankind in our image”). Man and woman are both made in the image and likeness of God.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></span> Humanity is made on the sixth day, on the same day as all other land animals.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></span> From the beginning God gives a command to humanity (Genesis 1:28): “be fruitful and multiply” - an implied command to have sexual relations and to procreate</p>
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<p><span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Genesis 2</strong></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></span> Another creation story - there are two creation stories in Genesis - man is made from the earth, woman is made from the man. They’re of the same matter and nature, and woven into the fabric of creation.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></span> Genesis describes the creation of men and women, and offers some insight into their purpose.</p>
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<p><strong>What kinds of truth or realities can poetry express that prose or scientific observations cannot?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Lutherans tend not to view these stories as history in a modern sense of precisely recounting and interpreting the past, but instead as faithful stories filled with religious power and promise. What do you think is the purpose of these creation stories?</strong></p>
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<h4><span style="color: #49728f;">Once we start reading the Bible’s stories, we soon realize that ancient communities had different cultural realities and social norms than we do. And the answer isn’t necessarily to restore the realities and norms of these ancient communities.</span></h4>
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	<p><strong>SODOM AND GOMORRAH</strong> What’s going on here? Many of us have heard about “sodomy” and of the sinfulness of Sodom and Gomorrah. Over the centuries many Christians have misinterpreted this story to be a condemnation of homosexuality. Yet what is on display in Sodom is not consensual relations, but a desire for violent gang rape.</p>
<p>Whereas Lot extends gracious and generous hospitality to the two men, the town does the exact opposite. Hospitality is a holy calling in the Bible (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+19%3A33-34&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Leviticus 19:33-34</a></span>). Sodom fails to extend the requisite, commanded hospitality.</p>
<p>Scripture also interprets Scripture. The Prophet Ezekiel comments on the sin of Sodom. “This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.” <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16%3A49-50&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ezekiel 16:49-50</a></span>. The sin of Sodom was its greed and pride.</p>
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	<p><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">Extramarital Sex to Produce an Heir</span></strong></p>
<p>When Abram and Sarai are unable to conceive, Abram has sex with Sarai’s servant Hagar in order to produce an heir. (see Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, child Ishmael, <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+16&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Genesis 16</a></span>).<em> If any of us are childless today, we would not seek to produce an heir through extramarital sex.</em></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><strong>Offering Daughters to a Violent Mob</strong></span></p>
<p>When Lot welcomes two angels into his house, a violent mob approaches his door with a violent desire to rape the men. Lot refuses their demands, but instead offers his daughters to the violent mob (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19%3A1-29&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Genesis 19</a></span>).<em> In a similar situation we would not offer family members to be abused by a violent mob.</em></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><strong>Polygamy</strong></span></p>
<p>Polygamy is found throughout the Old Testament. Abraham,<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2031%3A17&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="color: #c27350;">Jacob</span></a>, <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Samuel%205%3A13&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">David</a></span>, and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%2011%3A4&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Solomon</span></a> (among others) practiced polygamy.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i> Polygamy seems also to have been practiced in the New Testament. Paul wrote that ministers should be “husbands of one wife” <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+3%3A2%2C+12%3B+Titus+1%3A6&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">(1 Timothy 3:2, 12; Titus 1:6</a></span> – could Christian men who were not ministers have more than one wife?). Apparently, some early Christians, and potential converts to the faith, practiced polygamy.<em> We do not practice polygamy</em>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><strong>Vulnerability of Single Women</strong></span></p>
<p>Marriage was the way to secure a vulnerable woman. Sometimes this meant a married man took a widow as his second wife (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+25%3A5-6&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Deuteronomy 25:5-6</a></span>). <em>We do not believe that marriage is the only means by which to protect a vulnerable person, or that a woman must be married to be financially or socially secure</em></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><strong>Gender Roles</strong></span></p>
<p>Paul also wrote that women should not speak in church or have authority over men (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+14%3A34-36%3B+1+Timothy+2%3A8-15&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">1 Corinthians 14:34-36; 1 Timothy 2:8-15</a></span>). <em>We believe that God’s Spirit calls all people into ministry without distinction.</em></p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><strong>Marriage? Meh</strong></span></p>
<p>Paul wrote that it is better for believers not to get married. Marriage was acceptable, of course, if you couldn’t control your libido. Much of his ambivalence about marriage stems from his expectation of Christ’s imminent return. (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">1 Corinthians 7</a></span>). <em>We have a different perspective both on marriage and the timing of Christ’s return.</em></p>
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	<p>These examples highlight that we do not live in the societies from and for which the Scriptures were first written. In fact, understanding the context of these Scriptures helps us to understand why these rules/teachings were established in the first place, even if we acknowledge their literal applicability today is untenable.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">QUESTIONS</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>Obviously many of these rules do not make sense in our contemporary contexts, but they existed for a reason. We do not merely dismiss them as archaic. Considering the cultural context of these teachings, what is the purpose of some of these practices? Pick one or more of these teachings and try to understand its wisdom.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Have you experienced a change of perspective on a “big” issue or major personal commitment? Have you seen others change their perspective, or rules, about something? What do you think brings about such changes?</strong></p>
<p>The best of our contemporary values around marriage and sexuality - marrying for love, consent in matters of sexual relations, dating - are not really found in the Bible. Does that make these things “unbiblical”? In a technical way, perhaps, but that’s the wrong question to ask. The internet, the English language, baseball, and space travel aren’t in the Bible, either.</p>
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	<p><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">Christian, Not Biblicist</span></strong></p>
<p>Many beautiful, wonderful, holy, faithful, and life-giving aspects of our world are not found in the Bible. Many of our core social norms are not found in the Bible. And that’s ok. We are not Biblicists – we are Christians. Our faith and our daily lives are not limited by the printed words of the Bible, but instead are gracious gifts opened up for us by the promise of our Lord Jesus Christ who lives and reigns not just in the past, but yet today and in the promised future.</p>
<p>When we look to Scripture for specific rules on gender roles, marriage, and sexuality, we tend to encounter norms that are shaped by extremely different cultural and social norms than what we have today. As 21st century Christians living today in the United States, we inhabit a<strong> significantly distinct society</strong> from those we read of in Scripture. Everything from life expectancy to legal codes, technology to how we think of the self, is radically different. The ways we live out our faith, then, are also necessarily different.</p>
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<h4><span style="color: #49728f;">Given the radically different historical, social, and gender norms of the societies from which the Bible was written, norms that shaped the Bible’s explicit teachings about gender and sexuality, we need a different approach to Scripture on these matters. When looking to Scripture for guidance today on gender roles, marriage, relationships, and sexuality, we should look to the central teachings of our faith, the core commitments of Christian belief and ethics, and apply those faithfully to our most intimate and personal relationships.</span></h4>
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	<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></span> <strong>LOVE GOD, LOVE NEIGHBOR</strong> (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40%3B+Deuteronomy+6%3A5%3B+Leviticus+19%3A18&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Matthew 22:36-40; Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18</a></span>). This is the primary teaching of Jesus – love. Not like. Not affection. Love that deeply regards the humanity, dignity, and honor of all people, neighbors, friends, and enemies alike.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i> </span><strong>LOOK TO THE GOOD OF OTHERS, NOT SELF </strong>(<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A3-4&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Philippians 2:3-4</a></span>). Fundamentally, Christianity is other-centric, focused on honoring and improving the welfare of those around us.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i> </span><strong>NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN PEOPLE</strong> (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A28&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Galatians 3:28</a></span>) At the conclusion of an argument about how the promise of the Gospel works, Paul writes that there is no distinction between male and female, Jew and Greek, slave and free. Gentiles are grafted into the promise through faith in Christ, not through works of the law. The previously important distinctions (ethnicity, social status, gender) break down in faith.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i> </span><strong>NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN PEOPLE, PART II</strong><b> (</b><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joel+2%3A28-29&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="color: #c27350;">Joel 2:28-29</span></a>) The Prophet Joel, speaking the word of God, announces that the movement of God’s spirit does not favor certain people because of social distinctions. Note that in this passage when Joel proclaims that God’s spirit would be poured out also on slaves, that is both a status and an ethnic distinction, as only foreigners, non-Jews, would have been held as slaves.</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i> </span><strong>IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD</strong> (<span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A26-27&amp;version=NRSVUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Genesis 1:26-27</a></span>) If humanity is made in the image and likeness of God, this means all people. All people are made in the image and likeness of God. When I gaze upon my neighbor, I see God’s beloved handiwork, image, and child.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #49728f;">QUESTIONS</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>How does placing love at the center of our interpersonal ethics change, if at all, how we view people who in previous time periods would have been shunned, or worse?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Let’s take that question and push it into today. What groups of people tend to be marginalized and rejected today? How is Christian love for them expressed?</strong></p>
<p><strong>How does placing love at the center of our interpersonal ethics change, if at all, the types and kinds of human relationships we engage in and bless, especially those that would have been forbidden in other eras?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Last Fall New Joy hosted two conversations</strong> with local LGBTQ+ advocates and educators (GLSEN of Central Indiana and Indiana Youth Group), providing members of our congregation with important opportunities to learn. This Spring we are planning a four-week Bible Study and a few experiences to learn from members of the LGBTQ+ community and from members of LGBTQ+ affirming congregations.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-asterisk"></i></span> <strong>February 12, SESSION 1</strong><br />
<strong>We’re Talking About THAT?<br />
</strong><em>Overview of Christianity and Human Sexuality. </em><br />
<em>Setting Terms of our Discussion - safety, honor, humility, love for neighbor</em><br />
<em>Gathering Questions</em></p>
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<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-asterisk"></i></span> <strong>February 19, SESSION 2</strong><br />
<strong>What it means to welcome “All People”<br />
</strong><em>Review New Joy’s 2002 Mission Wheel and 2015 Mission Statement. </em><br />
<em>Read Scripture around Welcome &amp; Hospitality. </em><br />
<em>Do we need to get specific, or does “all” truly cover everybody? </em><br />
<em>Topics from Session 1’s “Gathering Questions”</em></p>
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<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-asterisk"></i></span> <strong>February 26, SESSION 3<br />
</strong><strong>But the Bible Says …<br />
</strong><em>Understanding certain Bible passages that (may?) address same-sex sexual activity<br />
</em><em>Examine certain social norms in Biblical and contemporary contexts<br />
</em><em>Topics from Session 1’s “Gathering Questions”</em></p>
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<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-asterisk"></i></span> <strong>March 5, SESSION 4<br />
</strong><strong>Affirming Because of - <em>Not in Spite of</em> - Jesus<br />
</strong><em>Jesus’ call to fully affirm and honor LGBTQ+ people<br />
</em><em>What it may look like for New Joy<br />
</em><em>Topics from Session 1’s “Gathering Questions”</em></p>
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<p><strong>Questions?</strong> Attend the classes, contact Pastor Chris at <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="mailto:pastor@newjoy.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">pastor@newjoy.org</a></span>, or call the church office at 317 896-1402. Thank you.</p>
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<p>Last week we held our first <a href="https://newjoy.org/2021/05/17/know-justice-know-peace/"><span style="color: #c37350;">Know Justice, Know Peace Bible Discussion</span></a> out in the New Joy Pavilion. We began by listening deeply to Scripture – using the <a href="https://newjoy.org/resources/dailyprayer/collatio/"><span style="color: #c37350;">Collatio method</span></a> we’ve used at New Joy for Praying the Psalms.</p>
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	<h3><span style="color: #49728f;">We are often the person walking to the other side of the road to avoid the one in need. </span></h3>
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<em>Know Justice, Know Peace Bible Discussion</em></strong></p>
<p><strong>We gather in the pavilion at New Joy. Bring a chair and a listening ear.</strong></p>
<p><strong>For full details,</strong> <span style="color: #c27350;"><a style="color: #c27350;" href="https://newjoy.org/event/justicepeace/?event_date=2021-06-03">click here</a></span>.</p>
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	<p><strong>The process involves three basic steps:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 40px;">1.<strong> listening</strong> to Scripture followed by silence<br />
2. <strong>listening</strong> to Scripture, and <strong>listening</strong> to the word, phrase, or image that is stirred up in the hearts of those gathered<br />
3.<strong> listening</strong> to Scripture, and <strong>listening</strong> deeply to one another as we consider what this text is telling us about our lives together<br />
4. following the discussion we conclude with one final <strong>listening</strong> to Scripture and conclude with prayer.</p>
<p>Our time together begins with meditative listening, and crescendos toward a lively conversation exploring the text’s wisdom for our life together.</p>
<p>We read the “Good Samaritan” story from Luke 10:25-37, in which two religious leaders avoid helping a man left for dead in the road but a common Samaritan – a man from a religious group seen as heretical and undesirable – aids and comforts the injured man.</p>
<p>Here is just some of the wisdom heard as we listened to Scripture and each other:</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>we are often the person walking to the other side of the road, avoiding the one in need</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>like the religious leaders who avoided helping the left-for-dead man, we often avoid helping those in need, even as we also know God’s call to love and care for the suffering</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>sometimes we are paralyzed by “what-ifs” – what if the man harms us? What if he is sick? What if I don’t know how to help? The what ifs, fears, uncertainty keep us on the sidelines</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>the call to love the Lord our God with all our heart, mind and strength is a big ask. Can we even do that?</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>help, and holiness, can come from unexpected people and places – even “heretics” and outsiders</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>people who should know better – in this case, religious leaders – can fail to do the right thing</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>maybe loving God looks like loving our neighbor</p>
<p><span style="color: #49728f;"><i class="fa fa-arrow-right"></i> </span>how do you think the conversation between the wounded man and the Samaritan went after the man woke up and found that he had been rescued from certain death?</p>
<p>I give thanks to God for our gathering last Thursday night – for the faithful listening, the curiosity, the fellowship, and the sharing of insights and ideas.</p>
<p>Please join us on Thursday nights at 8pm this summer for <em><strong>Know Justice, Know Peace</strong></em> in the pavilion at New Joy. Bring a chair and a listening ear.</p>
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			<span><i class="fa fa-calendar"></i>February 16, 2024</span><span><i class="fa fa-user"></i> Posted By: Pastor Chris Duckworth</span><span><i class="fa fa-archive"></i> <a href="https://newjoy.org/category/blog/">Ministry Blog</a> <a href="https://newjoy.org/tag/body/">body</a></span> <span></span></span><div class="page-content"><p>Worshipping with our Bodies Among Western Christians there can be... </p></div><p><a href="https://newjoy.org/2024/02/16/worshipping-with-our-bodies/" class="btn btn-primary">Continue reading <i class="fa fa-long-arrow-right"></i></a></p></div></div></article><ul class="pagination"><li><a href="https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/" title="First"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-left"></i></a></li><li class="active"><span>1</span></li><li><a href='https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/page/2/' class="">2</a></li><li><a href='https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/page/3/' class="">3</a></li><li><a href='https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/page/4/' class="">4</a></li><li><a href='https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/page/5/' class="">5</a></li><li><a href='https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/page/6/' class="">6</a></li><li><a href='https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/page/7/' class="">7</a></li><li><a href="https://newjoy.org/tag/bible-discussion/feed/page/22/" title="Last"><i class="fa fa-angle-double-right"></i></a></li></ul></div>
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